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Monday, December 20th 2010, 9:36pm

ASUS EAH 6950 2GByte

Mit der EAH 6950 präsentiert ASUS seine erste AMD Radeon HD 6950 basierte Grafikkarte. Diese kann auf insgesamt 2 GByte GDDR5 Grafikspeicher zurückgreifen kann. Der Nachfolger der Radeon HD 5850 lässt auf einen ordentlichen Performance-Sprung hoffen, der nicht nur durch höhere Taktraten realisiert wurde.



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Monday, December 20th 2010, 10:18pm

Schönes Review, auch wenn die PErformance besser sein könnte.

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Monday, December 20th 2010, 10:22pm

Jau, das mit der Performance habe ich mir eben auch gedacht. Irgendwie werd ich einfach nicht wirklich warm bei der Karte. Sie ist ja toll und gamen kann man damit prima ... aber eben ... irgendwie weder Fisch noch Vogel das Ding ...
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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 12:37am

no clue whatsoever

Author of above article hasn't a clue about testing graphics cards .... new architecture from amd .. and no dx11 benchmark ? metro 2033 , heaven , alien vs predator ? .if u actually have tested that card in one of the above game u would have seen that performance of new radeons is 50% more than 5800 .. i know , such an improvement means nothing to someone that took money from nvidia to prise gtx570 instead .. btw hd6950 retails for less than 5850 was at release day ... and year after lol . useless article , meaningless data . waste of time .
ps . core i7 @ 2.66 ... LOL

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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 10:16am

Welcome on board my friend.

Criticism is always welcome! But it stops at the point when someone starts blaming me for things I'd absolutely never do. I don't think that you've read many of our reviews because if you did so you would have noticed that we verbalize what we've tested. When a product is good then it's good and we explain why. When it's bad then it's bad and we explain why.
As an example the following conclusion:
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/module…el_lang=english

Furthermore, sure it's true, we do not have DX11 game benchmarks in our comparison tables. We do test 3DMark 11 which - as you surely know - supports DX11.

Regarding the Core i7 at 2.66 GHZ and game settings at 8x AA 16x AF: Have you ever done scaling tests?
Take for example the following article: http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_p…_hd_5970,3.html

For Batman Arkham Asylum you see a 9 Percent performance increase with a 100 Percent clock increase --> the CPU is definitely not limiting anything here
For Wolfenstein you see a 3 Percent performance increase with a 100 Percent clock increase --> again the CPU is not limiting at all
For Left4Dead you see a 15 Percent performance increase with a 100 Percent clock increase --> between 2.0 GHz and 2.4 GHz you see that there is a jump afterwards, almost no difference
For Modern Warfare 2 you see a 14 Percent performance increase with a 100 Percent clock increase --> again between 2.0 GHz and 2.4 GHz there is a jump afterwards almost constant
For Company of Heroes you see a 15 Percent performance increase with a 100 Percent clock increase --> again between 2.0 GHz and 2.4 GHz there is a jump afterwards almost constant
It goes on like this for Crysis Warhead, Far Cry 2, BattleForge and H.A.W.X.

Worring about CPU scaling would start when the 100 percent clock increase would show a 100 percent performance increase in the game. Differences between 0 and 15 Percent are insignificant regarding a 100 Percent CPU clock increase.

Another thing is that Legion Hardware did some test with no AA/AF or low AA/AF settings. This means less load on the GPU, thus the likelyhood that the CPU could be limiting increases.



My 50 cents to the 6950: I would actually buy it. I like the card and it's well priced but facing the truth that its architecture has been overworked the performance increase noe gets isn't significant enough. This is my opinion.
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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 12:10pm

@ Caiman, nice to see some feedback and your point of view.
Even if I really dont like the end of the comment.

1) Yes that s true that we need some dx11 benchmark, like unigine, stalker, alien vs predator, DIRT 2 ...
because next generation GPU will use dx11. But there is one thing, there is only 3 real dx11 benchmark atm, unigine and 3dmark 2011,(I have to test the avp, and more stalker one, but one thing that I am sure is that DIRT 2 is an ingame benchmark that will not do always the same framerate so we can t use it).

2) At the moment there isnt too many DX11 games.

3) using a i7 920 its fine because there is not so much scaling first and then that people are keeping they Core2Quad and Core2Duo, which is still the LGA775 the most important.

4) You are free to write what you think, but not allowed to attack the rewiever so hard ;).

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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 12:50pm

I have already been thinking about adding the Unigine benchmark to the selction and I think it will be a good addition. In this case I'll bench as many cards as possible with this benchmark too.

In our graphics benchmarks you'll never find benchmarks for which we used fraps, because the measurement error is simply too big. What we do use are benchmarks which come with a built in routine such as Resident Evil 5, World in Conflict, ... have one. But at this point we could also start a debate about theoretical and practical benchmarks and this one wont end. Our approach is to use time demos or theoretical benchmarks.
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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 12:56pm

Yeah that s also what I wanted to say, btw I can do the test with the GTX 580, Radeon HD 6850 an crossfire Radeon HD 6850. For DX11 bench, this evening I will test DX 11 benchmark to see if stalker and alien vs predator are OK. Also if you know other DX11 games with build in benchmark, feel free to told us ;)

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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 1:18pm

Personally I think Alien vs. Predator is not a very good benchmark. It doesn't use that many dx11 effects and therefore it would be just one benchmark more.
Regarding Stalker, does this have an integrated benchmark routine or would you have to use fraps? If fraps there is no sense in doing this. The same for Dirt 2. If it has an integrated routine which runs automatically then it's worth considering, otherwise it does not make much sense.
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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 3:30pm

Yes, STALKER Call Of Pripyat is a Benchmark
DIRT 2 has a build in benchmark but it is really ingame so it's never the same framerate that it's calculated.
Then I think there is also a benchmark called StoneGiant that has good DX11 effect. I will test it too ;)

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Tuesday, December 21st 2010, 4:01pm

The Stone Benchmark also looks good imo but Dirt 2 I wouldn't use.
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